Curse

Morgwath · Mar 24, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

if it makes you feel better I have heard and used that phrase all my life.

96TSi · Mar 24, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

maybe its a southern US thing?

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fiery · Mar 24, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

I love a higher power teasing a peasant

, makes me happy.

Cherno · Mar 24, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Just because a build may not be usable in an area does not mean that the build has been nerfed.

fgarvin · Mar 24, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Hockster

If it bothers you so much just quit. Quit playing, quit whining, just quit.

Yesssss, people like the OP bother the hell out of me. We all play the game our own way. As long as it does not directly affect other players, why bother worrying about it?

If I need 10k for something, I farm.
If I'm bored and want something to do, I farm.
If it's 6am and my Guild's sleeping, I farm.

Guess what, none of that is affecting you.

I am a casual farmer. “Bots” as they’ve been called are a completely different matter and should be dealt with in a way that does not affect me or the tens of thousands like me.

Moa Bird Cultist · Mar 24, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

This is besides the point of the arguement here, but I thought I should point it out anyway: Guild Wars, as you say, is a team game. Now I may be wrong, but >1 person = a team, therefore duo UW runs are still effectively playing as a team. Oh and by the way...

Dont be so quick to attribute every problem in the economy to 55 monks

All the other casters out there can 55 and some classes, ie the ele, ranger and the warrior dont need 55 to farm and commonly dont use it. Since this seems to have turned into yet another 55hp monk debate, I'll ask you why has no-one here flamed on ettin farmers? We all know that's far more profitable in the long run than the few places a standard 55 monk can still solo effectively. If you ask me though, it isnt protective spirit that needs the nerfbat, it's that the ai needs updating again. They got it right with the AoE patch, but what they also need to do is add ai to help the monsters aoid self inflicted damage ala SS and gladiators defence. That is far more of an imbalance between pve and pvp than protective spirit. If you dont believe me, theres a link to a video of eAsY running Mendway in a GvG, proving that 55 is possible in PvP as well. It's also very, very funny that they pulled it off

dont feel no pain · Mar 24, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

bout time they removed the 55 monk, too easy and repetative.

Sir Skullcrasher · Mar 24, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

no more 55 monk, well, i'm sure someone will come up with new farming build when Chapter 2 is out.

Linsys · Mar 24, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Saul D allesio

While I was playing FPE at 8:00 10+ gmt There was the person incharge of the skills her name was "Isha <and somthing else gose here...cant remember>"
I asked her a few questions one of them regarding 55hp monks and ss necros...I asked him weather he'll Stop 2 man UW farms and gave him a sugestion to take away the -50hp offhands to reduce the efectiveness of 55hp monks...He just replied "in factions there will be another super hard area like the under world that wont be easly beaten by two man builds..." I was happy to hear that but while he said that he also meant that he is not going to stop the UW being abused...

So for all of you wondering wether the 55hp monk is going to be nerfed...
This is the horrible truth.

Feed back accepted =).

THIS IS GREAT NEWS..... I LOVE TWO MAN AND ONE MAN farming... too bad your disapointed.... too bad for u!!!

Also get ready for 2-3 man farm build in Factions, it will happen I guarantee that.

fgarvin · Mar 24, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

bout time they removed the 55 monk, too easy and repetative.

Easy, yes. Repetitive, dear God yes. But not everyone thinks as we do. I have a RL friend who loves farming with his 55 Monk; spends hours doing it. I can take it for about five short runs and that’s it. (I’ve just starting Bonding and it’s great, but that can also be very boring for some) Some like to farm with their Warriors which bores me to tears and some use their (insert class here), which bores (insert GW player's name here) to tears.

Who cares who does what with their characters; as long as it does not directly affect others, who gives a rat's @$$ ?

dustbunny · Mar 24, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by Saul D allesio

I am against farming a such a high level area such as the UW and FoW...

(1) Who's opinion counts about what is a high level area that shouldn't be farmed? You realize a lot of the monsters that people are farming are level 24, same as a those at a bunch of other places?

(2) If these areas didn't drop globs of ectoplasm or obsidian shards, would you still be opposed to people farming these places?

(3) Isaiah tells you: High difficulty areas coming that can't be easily farmed. You are getting what you want. What's the problem?

Cecil The Magician · Mar 24, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

There's nothing wrong with being good at making money.

I'm pretty poor as well, but you dont see me complaining. If your a 55 or SS, good for you.

It's a role-playing game, and one of the best things about them is making a name by either...

A: Being skilled in combat
B: Being rich
C: Being high leveled (with the exception of GW)

I'm glad they aren't nerfing either.

Now If you want to get money, you make your own SS or 55 or you find another build that works just as well.

ty3c · Mar 24, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

damn those who are against farming cauz they cant do it and find ideas themselves and start doing there "cut/paste" of popular builds
THAT is why runs are nerfed, cauz if poor whiners ...

items requires money and i dont intend to get gold by selling the 3 white items given to me in a 1hour borring coop mission..

Coop game = no drop
Hench play= nothing on ground either

u want money, u find a damn way to get some !! is that so hard to get ??
plus, this is legal way, not a bot/cheat/ebay crap

so, stop that stupid debate and if you are against farming, stay poor and go pvp (not the right thread either)

I agree with you after all if people want stuff you gotta farm it or buy it farming lets us get whats needed not all of us farmers are greedy and want too much the point is we want whats needed if you nerf everything guess what all gold items will jump in price cuz you cant find them easy if anything ANET should make so many gold drops and so many perfect items that they all are reasonable to buy for everyone then no one gets rich and we all can use the best if you like this idea someone tell ANET stop nerfing us it makes things too costly for anyone and makes us lose 1,000s of dollars making builds and capping skills.

Fantus · Mar 24, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by Saul D allesio

So for all of you wondering wether the 55hp monk is going to be nerfed...
This is the horrible truth.

Feed back accepted =).

Thank god some official word on that.

Maybe just maybe we won't see all those whiners opening a "nerf 55" thread every 5 minutes anymore. *dreams*... what a wonderful world....

Manda Panda · Mar 24, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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The UW is supposed to be a high level area left to experianced players to have fun...Not an ecto farm ground

Then don't farm ectos.

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I am against farming a such a high level area such as the UW and FoW

Then don't farm it.

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Im not saying do a classic 8 man...Im saying atleast do a reasnoble amount of people...more than two

Then do that.

G_Bones · Mar 24, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

I couldn't care less if people farm or not. What bothers me is, instead of addressing the farming situation in order to give stability to the economy, Anet continues to nerf drops for ALL players. So yes, the 55 monks screw EVERYONE in the end, as well as all other solo builds. The sad part is, if the drops hadn't been nerfed, you wouldn't have had nearly as many people get into farming. Now, farming is the ONLY legit way to make money.

I see this as a huge contrast to the way GW was originally advertised, as a MMORPG without the usual grind. Now, PvE is nothing but grind. If all you do is quest, you can't even afford a Superior Salvage kit. It's pathetic, really. I didn't get the game to have to spend 100's of hours farming alone in order to buy a sword or shield, because we all know that decent gold drops are 1 in a million. I honestly feel that Anet has begun the death of what WAS a great game before the second chapter began. Factions should open the door for normal play and earning for a short while, but then the nerfs will follow, and within 3 months the game will be back to the same boring farm-a-thon. That is, if there is much new PvE content at all, and not just endless Faction Wars.

Coolniceronguy · Mar 24, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Saul, thank you for reminding me why I have an ignore list on these forums.

Saul D allesio · Mar 25, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by dustbunny

(1) Who's opinion counts about what is a high level area that shouldn't be farmed? You realize a lot of the monsters that people are farming are level 24, same as a those at a bunch of other places?

(2) If these areas didn't drop globs of ectoplasm or obsidian shards, would you still be opposed to people farming these places?

(3) Isaiah tells you: High difficulty areas coming that can't be easily farmed. You are getting what you want. What's the problem?

(1) But in great numbers

(2) I only do the UW and FoW for fun...and others might disagree

(3) Yes I am...But the threads about ss/fow...oh well...The 55hp monks will perish once the new areas come out. Who'd want to farm "ye ol' UW" when you can get a harder challeng and probly more expensive items. and the new areas in Ch. 2 will not realy be farmable by 55hp monks and SS necros...So that means that ecto prices will go down...(aka. no more 55hp monks =0)

Karmaniac · Mar 25, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by Saul D allesio

Dam all you farmers! (well atlest 55hp/SS ones...)

I know you think that im like "[email protected]!!111 LOOKIE LOOKIE NERF NERF NERF NERF," just for attention... but thats not the case...Im against all the ways to abuse the game a little but im DEFENATLY agains the 55hp monks and SS necros...The UW is supposed to be a high level area left to experianced players to have fun...Not an ecto farm ground

And I don't particularly like when people come and voice their moral opinions and personal beliefs as god given facts. Newsflash: in philosophy there's a term called "logical missconception" which states that one cannot deduct how things should be from how they are. I'd suggest you to think about that.

In the meantime please refrain from making such statements in the future. Farming is man's own thing and his own thing alone.

Hockster · Mar 25, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by 96TSi

it was my way of laughing at you because your entire post was whining about it all and at the end you told him to stop whining.

i must be getting old if people dont know what "pot calling the kettle black" means lol

How the hell was my post whining? Don't bother answering that, you're not intelligent enough to post a post worth reading anyway.